Podcast 103: Waterworld

The 3 Guys Podcast

Recorded on 3/3/2023

Beyond the horizon lies the secret to a new beginning. This week we’re reviewing Waterworld starring: Kevin Costner, Dennis Hopper, Jeanne Tripplehorn, Tina Majorino, Michael Jeter and directed by Kevin Reynolds. WARNING: There will be SPOILERS!

The 3 Guys Rating

2.6/5

Notes From The Show

  • Quick Synopsis

  • Released: July 28, 1995

    Directed By: Kevin Reynolds

    Written By: Peter Rader and David Twohy

    Stars: Kevin Costner, Dennis Hopper, Jeanne Tripplehorn, Tina Majorino, Michael Jeter and a bunch of other actors.

    Plot: In a future where the polar ice-caps have melted and Earth is almost entirely submerged, a mutated mariner fights starvation and outlaw “smokers,” and reluctantly helps a woman and a young girl try to find dry land.

    Taglines: Beyond the horizon lies the secret to a new beginning.

    How did this movie do?
    Budget: $175 Million ($235 Million after marketing & distribution)
    Box Office: $264 Million ($88 Million at the US box office, $176 at the foreign box office)

  • Casting

    • Samuel L. Jackson turned down the role of Deacon in order to be in Die Hard with a Vengeance (1995). Gene Hackman, James Caan and Gary Oldman also all turned down the role of the Deacon. Jack Nicholson was considered for The Deacon, but was deemed too expensive.
    • Tina Majorino was nicknamed “Jellyfish Candy” by the crew after she was stung three different times during production.
    • Jeanne Tripplehorn and Tina Majorino would later go on to star together in the HBO series Big Love (2006).
  • Awards

    • Nominated for Best Sound at the Academy Awards
  • Trivia

    • The film originally started out as a low-budget apocalyptic film for the studio of Roger Corman, but as soon as the decision was made to situate it mainly on sea, Corman had to pull out due to budget concerns.

    • Co-written by David Twohy, who cited The Road Warrior (1981) as a major inspiration.

    • A comic book sequel to the movie reveals that Mariner’s mutation is actually from genetic engineering vs. evolution and that his origins may be linked to those of the “Sea Eater”, the sea monster seen during the fishing scene in the film.

    • In July 2021, it was announced Universal Cable Productions was in early development on a follow-up TV series to be directed by Dan Trachtenberg.

    • The preferred 3-hour cut of director Kevin Reynolds was drastically edited back to a 135-minute theatrical version by Kevin Costner and the studio, probably in an effort to recoup the film’s inflated $175 million dollar budget (since Costner’s previous 3-hour movie Wyatt Earp (1994) had been a box office bomb). ABC later broadcast an extended TV version that restored almost 40 minutes of deleted scenes, which explain more about the world, the people who live there, the Smokers’ religious beliefs and their ability to refine crude oil.

    • There is a fan-edit version restoring cut footage that was sanctioned and rereleased by the distributor called Waterworld: The Ulysses Cut.

    • It is rumored that director Kevin Reynolds and Kevin Costner had a huge squabble over the film, resulting in Reynolds walking off the project, and leaving Costner to take over directing and oversee editing. Reynolds was quoted as saying that “Kevin Costner should only star in movies he directs. That way, he can work with his favorite actor and favorite director”.

    • Seventeen years after their falling out and after this movie was released, Kevin Costner and Kevin Reynolds made amends and worked on Hatfields & McCoys (2012).

    • Prior to Titanic (1997), this was the most expensive movie ever produced.

    • The floating atoll set used up all the available steel in the Hawaiian Islands. When more was required, it had to be flown in from California. The runway at Kona Airport actually had to be extended by a quarter mile to accommodate the heavy planes that had to land there.

    • Joss Whedon flew out to the set to do last-minute rewrites on the script’s third act aboard the Smokers’ ship, the ‘Deez’. He later described it as “seven weeks of hell”, stating that he did little more than taking notes from Kevin Costner and trying to work them in the script, because nobody listened to his ideas. In the end he “wrote a few puns, and a few scenes that I can’t even sit through because they came out so bad.”

    • Jeanne Tripplehorn refused to strip for this film, even though she had done nude scenes before (and would do them after this film). She insisted on choosing her body double, as she wanted the naked backside shown to resemble her own. She had the three finalists come into her trailer and drop their robes. She described it as such an odd experience that none of them could stop laughing. In between takes of the nude scene, Tripplehorn remained off-camera to offer a robe or towel to the double.

    • The sunken city visited by the Mariner and guest consists of elaborate miniature buildings shot in smoke to simulate the opacity of water. Shots of Kevin Costner and Jeanne Tripplehorn were filmed separately inside a water tank used for astronaut training, and composited into the underwater shots; computer-generated images (CGI) were used to add water ripple effects and bubbles. One of the buildings was a miniature of a local donut shop, jokingly called ‘Mike’s Donuts’ in honor of visual effects supervisor Michael J. McAlister (Mike), with a big life preserver on top instead of a donut. Another miniature is a sunken version of the ‘Orca’ from Jaws (1975). These miniatures were combined with backgrounds of a digitally edited Denver, Colorado. The “Norwest Building” (roughly shaped like a cash register) can be seen in one shot.

    • Jeanne Tripplehorn and Tina Majorino nearly drowned on their first day of filming when the trimaran they were on sank, dragging them behind it.

    • Kevin Costner nearly died when he got caught in a squall while tied to the mast of his trimaran. The ship was rocking dangerously, and the crew had to navigate it to calmer waters before they could attempt to get Costner safely down the mast.

    • The language Kevin Costner speaks to the lime stealing drifter early in the movie is Hindi.

    • Kevin Costner was going through a bitter divorce during filming, which Kevin Reynolds felt probably added to his grim and somewhat unsympathetic portrayal of the Mariner.

    • The cost of the Atoll floating set, 1,000 tons and a quarter of a mile in length, was $22m.

    • Director Kevin Reynolds asked Steven Spielberg for counsel, as he had experience with filming on water while making Jaws (1975). Spielberg gave him one simple advice: do not shoot on open water. Jaws had a production that was almost as troubled as Waterworld’s would be, due to Spielberg’s insistence to shoot on the ocean rather than a water tank or lake. The inability to control the elements on the open sea caused Jaws’ shoot to infamously balloon from a scheduled 55 days to over 155.

    • The harpoon gun (Greener light harpoon gun) used by the Mariner is the same model used by Quint in Jaws.

    • Filming shut down 3 times due to hurricane alerts.

    • Although the exact year that the film takes place is never mentioned, production designer Dennis Gassner has suggested it’s set in 2500. This is mentioned Janine Pourroy’s “The Making of Waterworld,” published by Boulevard Books in 1995.

    • The child’s name, Enola, is “alone” spelled backwards.

    • The entire slaver faction was written out when the set was destroyed.

    • Screenwriter David Twohy later went on to write and direct the Riddick films starring Vin Diesel as the title anti-hero Richard B. Riddick which were produced and released by Universal Pictures which was the production company that produced and released Waterworld (1995).

    • Although it is never confirmed in the theatrical cut that Dryland is actually Mount Everest, the numbers on the tattoo on Enola’s back actually give Everest’s exact coordinates. In the longer Ulysses Cut of the film, it is made explicit: as Helen and Enola wave goodbye to the Mariner from a mountain top, they find a plaque that commemorates the first explorers (Hillary and Norgay) setting foot on Mount Everest’s summit in 1953.

    • In the original ending of the film, it was explained that The Mariner isn’t leaving simply because he is freaked out over Dryland or that he feels he truly belongs on the open waters of Waterworld. He reveals to Helen that there may be other mutants like himself out there and that he must find them to tell them about Dryland and Helen. This ending was restored in the extended Ulysses Cut of the film.

    • In the extended cut of the film (the Ulysses Cut), at the end when The Mariner is about to set sail and leave Dryland, Helen tells The Mariner about the Greek legend of Ulysses (from the Odyssey), which is Helen’s farewell gift to The Mariner, which he will need on his journey and that she is suggesting that Ulysses should be his name. Helen herself was named after Helen of Troy, from the Illiad and the Odyssey.

Released: July 28, 1995

Directed By: Kevin Reynolds

Written By: Peter Rader and David Twohy

Stars: Kevin Costner, Dennis Hopper, Jeanne Tripplehorn, Tina Majorino, Michael Jeter and a bunch of other actors.

Plot: In a future where the polar ice-caps have melted and Earth is almost entirely submerged, a mutated mariner fights starvation and outlaw “smokers,” and reluctantly helps a woman and a young girl try to find dry land.

Taglines: Beyond the horizon lies the secret to a new beginning.

How did this movie do?
Budget: $175 Million ($235 Million after marketing & distribution)
Box Office: $264 Million ($88 Million at the US box office, $176 at the foreign box office)

  • Samuel L. Jackson turned down the role of Deacon in order to be in Die Hard with a Vengeance (1995). Gene Hackman, James Caan and Gary Oldman also all turned down the role of the Deacon. Jack Nicholson was considered for The Deacon, but was deemed too expensive.
  • Tina Majorino was nicknamed “Jellyfish Candy” by the crew after she was stung three different times during production.
  • Jeanne Tripplehorn and Tina Majorino would later go on to star together in the HBO series Big Love (2006).
  • Nominated for Best Sound at the Academy Awards
  • The film originally started out as a low-budget apocalyptic film for the studio of Roger Corman, but as soon as the decision was made to situate it mainly on sea, Corman had to pull out due to budget concerns.

  • Co-written by David Twohy, who cited The Road Warrior (1981) as a major inspiration.

  • A comic book sequel to the movie reveals that Mariner’s mutation is actually from genetic engineering vs. evolution and that his origins may be linked to those of the “Sea Eater”, the sea monster seen during the fishing scene in the film.

  • In July 2021, it was announced Universal Cable Productions was in early development on a follow-up TV series to be directed by Dan Trachtenberg.

  • The preferred 3-hour cut of director Kevin Reynolds was drastically edited back to a 135-minute theatrical version by Kevin Costner and the studio, probably in an effort to recoup the film’s inflated $175 million dollar budget (since Costner’s previous 3-hour movie Wyatt Earp (1994) had been a box office bomb). ABC later broadcast an extended TV version that restored almost 40 minutes of deleted scenes, which explain more about the world, the people who live there, the Smokers’ religious beliefs and their ability to refine crude oil.

  • There is a fan-edit version restoring cut footage that was sanctioned and rereleased by the distributor called Waterworld: The Ulysses Cut.

  • It is rumored that director Kevin Reynolds and Kevin Costner had a huge squabble over the film, resulting in Reynolds walking off the project, and leaving Costner to take over directing and oversee editing. Reynolds was quoted as saying that “Kevin Costner should only star in movies he directs. That way, he can work with his favorite actor and favorite director”.

  • Seventeen years after their falling out and after this movie was released, Kevin Costner and Kevin Reynolds made amends and worked on Hatfields & McCoys (2012).

  • Prior to Titanic (1997), this was the most expensive movie ever produced.

  • The floating atoll set used up all the available steel in the Hawaiian Islands. When more was required, it had to be flown in from California. The runway at Kona Airport actually had to be extended by a quarter mile to accommodate the heavy planes that had to land there.

  • Joss Whedon flew out to the set to do last-minute rewrites on the script’s third act aboard the Smokers’ ship, the ‘Deez’. He later described it as “seven weeks of hell”, stating that he did little more than taking notes from Kevin Costner and trying to work them in the script, because nobody listened to his ideas. In the end he “wrote a few puns, and a few scenes that I can’t even sit through because they came out so bad.”

  • Jeanne Tripplehorn refused to strip for this film, even though she had done nude scenes before (and would do them after this film). She insisted on choosing her body double, as she wanted the naked backside shown to resemble her own. She had the three finalists come into her trailer and drop their robes. She described it as such an odd experience that none of them could stop laughing. In between takes of the nude scene, Tripplehorn remained off-camera to offer a robe or towel to the double.

  • The sunken city visited by the Mariner and guest consists of elaborate miniature buildings shot in smoke to simulate the opacity of water. Shots of Kevin Costner and Jeanne Tripplehorn were filmed separately inside a water tank used for astronaut training, and composited into the underwater shots; computer-generated images (CGI) were used to add water ripple effects and bubbles. One of the buildings was a miniature of a local donut shop, jokingly called ‘Mike’s Donuts’ in honor of visual effects supervisor Michael J. McAlister (Mike), with a big life preserver on top instead of a donut. Another miniature is a sunken version of the ‘Orca’ from Jaws (1975). These miniatures were combined with backgrounds of a digitally edited Denver, Colorado. The “Norwest Building” (roughly shaped like a cash register) can be seen in one shot.

  • Jeanne Tripplehorn and Tina Majorino nearly drowned on their first day of filming when the trimaran they were on sank, dragging them behind it.

  • Kevin Costner nearly died when he got caught in a squall while tied to the mast of his trimaran. The ship was rocking dangerously, and the crew had to navigate it to calmer waters before they could attempt to get Costner safely down the mast.

  • The language Kevin Costner speaks to the lime stealing drifter early in the movie is Hindi.

  • Kevin Costner was going through a bitter divorce during filming, which Kevin Reynolds felt probably added to his grim and somewhat unsympathetic portrayal of the Mariner.

  • The cost of the Atoll floating set, 1,000 tons and a quarter of a mile in length, was $22m.

  • Director Kevin Reynolds asked Steven Spielberg for counsel, as he had experience with filming on water while making Jaws (1975). Spielberg gave him one simple advice: do not shoot on open water. Jaws had a production that was almost as troubled as Waterworld’s would be, due to Spielberg’s insistence to shoot on the ocean rather than a water tank or lake. The inability to control the elements on the open sea caused Jaws’ shoot to infamously balloon from a scheduled 55 days to over 155.

  • The harpoon gun (Greener light harpoon gun) used by the Mariner is the same model used by Quint in Jaws.

  • Filming shut down 3 times due to hurricane alerts.

  • Although the exact year that the film takes place is never mentioned, production designer Dennis Gassner has suggested it’s set in 2500. This is mentioned Janine Pourroy’s “The Making of Waterworld,” published by Boulevard Books in 1995.

  • The child’s name, Enola, is “alone” spelled backwards.

  • The entire slaver faction was written out when the set was destroyed.

  • Screenwriter David Twohy later went on to write and direct the Riddick films starring Vin Diesel as the title anti-hero Richard B. Riddick which were produced and released by Universal Pictures which was the production company that produced and released Waterworld (1995).

  • Although it is never confirmed in the theatrical cut that Dryland is actually Mount Everest, the numbers on the tattoo on Enola’s back actually give Everest’s exact coordinates. In the longer Ulysses Cut of the film, it is made explicit: as Helen and Enola wave goodbye to the Mariner from a mountain top, they find a plaque that commemorates the first explorers (Hillary and Norgay) setting foot on Mount Everest’s summit in 1953.

  • In the original ending of the film, it was explained that The Mariner isn’t leaving simply because he is freaked out over Dryland or that he feels he truly belongs on the open waters of Waterworld. He reveals to Helen that there may be other mutants like himself out there and that he must find them to tell them about Dryland and Helen. This ending was restored in the extended Ulysses Cut of the film.

  • In the extended cut of the film (the Ulysses Cut), at the end when The Mariner is about to set sail and leave Dryland, Helen tells The Mariner about the Greek legend of Ulysses (from the Odyssey), which is Helen’s farewell gift to The Mariner, which he will need on his journey and that she is suggesting that Ulysses should be his name. Helen herself was named after Helen of Troy, from the Illiad and the Odyssey.

About The Movie From IMDB

Waterworld | July 28, 1995 (United States) 6.3

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Cast

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Mariner
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Deacon
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Enola
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Drifter
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Gatesman
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Enforcer
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Elder
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Priam
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Elder

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Quotes

Depth Gauge: [Sees the Mariner's lit flare about to fall on the oil. An end to his miserable existence] Oh, thank God!

[Kaboom]


Enola: He doesn't have a name so Death can't find him!


Mariner: I want the girl.

Deacon: You know, I thought you were stupid, friend. But I underestimated you. You are a total freaking retard! Ha-ha-ha...

Mariner: I want the girl. That's all.

Deacon: Well, what on this screwed-up earth of ours makes you think you're gonna get her?

[the Mariner takes a flare from his belt, and holds it over a hole leading down to the Deez's fuel hold]

Mariner: You know what this is. I drop it, you burn.

Doctor: We all burn...

Deacon: Now-now-now, let's not do anything rash here. I mean, are you sure this kid is worth it? I mean, she never does stop talking, she never shuts up!

Mariner: I noticed.

Deacon: So what is it, then? It's the map.

Mariner: She's my friend.

Deacon: Golly gee, a single tear rolls down my cheek. You're gonna die for your friend.

Mariner: If it comes to that.

[He ignites the flare, and holds it over the hole again]

Nord: He's bluffing! I'll kill him.

Enola: He's not bluffing, he never bluffs.

Deacon: SHUT UP!

[to the Mariner]

Deacon: I-I-I-I-I don't think you're gonna drop that torch, my friend.

Mariner: Why not?

Deacon: Because you're not crazy.

[the Mariner smiles, lifts his hand, and drops the flare down the hole]

Deacon: NO-O-O-O-O!


[after painting a ball bearing in the Deacon's eye socket to look like a real one]

Deacon: Well? How's it look?

[the other smokers say, "not bad," "not bad at all", etc]

Doctor: I-I like it better than your real eye.

[One smoker says, "much better," to general agreement]

Deacon: What do you say, Toby? The truth.

Toby: Looks like shit.

Deacon: That's why I love children: no guile.

[after looking at his new eye in a mirror]

Deacon: It does look like shit.


[speaking of dry land]

Mariner: Because I haven't seen it. And I've sailed further than most men have dreamed.


Enola: He doesn't have a name, so death can't find him. He doesn't have a home or people to care for. He's not afraid of anything, men least of all. He's fast and strong like the big wind. He can hear 100 miles and see 100 miles underwater. He can hide in the shadow of the noon sun. He can be right behind you and you wont even know it till your dead.


Mariner: Two drifters meet. Something needs to be exchanged.

Drifter: I know the code. But I'll give this one to you for free.

Mariner: Nothing's free in Waterworld.


Deacon: Don't just stand there, kill something!


Mariner: I've seen your boat before. Haven't seen you.


Deacon: If you'll notice the arterial nature of the blood coming from the hole in my head, you can assume that we're all having a real lousy day.


Depth Gauge: Sir? Your Deaconship? Good day! Or night. Whatever the case may be...

Deacon: What is it? I'm a busy man.

Depth Gauge: I thought you should know. There's exactly nine feet and four inches of THE BLACK STUFF...

[the Deacon spits on the Depth Gauge's head]

Depth Gauge: Oh, thank you!


Helen: Did you see anything out there?

Mariner: See what?

Helen: An end, to all this water?

Mariner: That old woman they buried today? She found the only end there is.


[after the deck of the Deez clears, one lone figure walks toward the bridge]

Deacon: Why aren't you rowing?

[the Mariner removes his mask]

Nord: [laughs] It's him.

Enola: It is him! You guys are in so much trouble.


Enola: [after the Mariner drops the flare and the boat is burning] Was this your big vision?


[first lines]

Narrator: The future... The polar ice caps have melted, covering the earth with water. Those who survived have adapted, to a new world.


Deacon: Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!


Deacon: Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start.


Mariner: What are the markings on her back?

Helen: Some say it's the way to dry land.

Mariner: Dry land is a myth.

Helen: No, you said it yourself, that you've seen it.

Mariner: You're a fool to believe in something you've never seen.

Helen: But the things on your boat...!

Mariner: The things on my boat, what?

Helen: There are things on your boat that no one has ever seen. These shells, the music box and the reflecting glass. Well, if not from dry land, then where? Where?

Mariner: You wanna see dry land? You really wanna see it? I'll take you there.


Deacon: Let's have an intelligent conversation here: I'll talk, and you listen.


[while holding Helen and the Mariner at gunpoint]

Deacon: All right, that's it! If you won't tell us where she is, let's just KILL 'EM ALL!

[He fires a gun into the air]

Enola: [popping up from her hiding place] NO!

Deacon: Ha-ha, so gullible!


Deacon: Maybe he doesn't answer to Chuck. Call him Charles.


Deacon: Look, it's the gentleman guppy.


Nord: [to the Mariner] You should have stayed under water.


Enola: You're not so tough, you know that? How many people have you killed? Ten? Twenty?

Mariner: You talk a lot.

Enola: I talk a lot because you don't talk at all. Now, how many?

Mariner: Including little girls?

Enola: I'm not afraid of you. I told Helen you wouldn't be so ugly if you cut your hair.

Mariner: In fact, you talk all the time. It's like a storm when you're around!


Nord: So which way we rowin'?

Deacon: I don't have a goddamn clue. Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it.


Deacon: If I ever see him again, I'm going to cut open his head and eat his brain.


Deacon: How 'bout a cigarette? Nothing like a good smoke when you miss your mom... Never too young to start...


Enola: He's killed dozens of people, and he doesn't have any mercy or anything. He even kills little girls.

Nord: Haven't we all?


Deacon: Well, I'll be damned. It's the gentleman guppy. You know, he's like a turd that won't flush.


Deacon: You know, I thought you were stupid, friend. But I underestimated you; you're a total freakin' retard!


Gatesman: [while wrestling with Mariner trying to apprehend him, sees with horror a gill behind the Mariner's ear; with abhorrence] Mu-u-ta-tion!


Drifter: Forget the bag. It's not worth it. You'll never make it with your sails down.


Helen: [trying to stop Mariner from throwing Enola off the boat] She can cook. She can fish.

Mariner: So can I.

Helen: [removing necklace] Here. Take my necklace. Take my necklace.

Mariner: I got better ones below.

Helen: No, look! After what you went through back there on the atoll, I can understand why you would want to. But she's a child.


Deacon: Bring out the kamakazees.

[Kamakazees are flying out of water on jet skis and skid on ski jumps to fly over the Floating Cage's walls and take out the inhabitants. One kamakazee is sent in a tugboat to drive into the base of the Floating Cage]

Deacon: Well, that made a hole!


Mariner: My boat.


Mariner: This is my boat. I got it the way I like it. You take up space and you slow me down.


Deacon: I've had a vision so great, as it came to me I wept.


Helen: You've been there, haven't you? Dryland? You know where it is.

Mariner: Yeah, I know where it is.

Helen: And, uh, and we're going?

Mariner: You and I are. The kid we gotta pitch over the side.

Helen: What?

Mariner: My boat's tore up. I'm taking on water.

[points to water filtration]

Mariner: I'd be lucky to get half a hydro ration out of that.

Helen: You know, I said I won't drink.

Mariner: For twelve days?

Helen: [Nods]

Mariner: No. It's better that one of you dies now, then both of you die slow.

Helen: Wait, wait. We saved your life. We got you out.

Mariner: No. You got me out so you could get out. We're even.


Helen: I thought you all stopped for each other. Maybe he has some FOOD!


Hellfire Gunner: Swab it. Swab it! I'm jammed.


Hellfire Gunner: Floor it. Floor it!


Deacon: He'll see what's left of you in a goddamn jar!

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