Recorded on 9/23/2021
For the month of October, we’re reviewing 2 Horror themed movies each week in each episode. In this podcast we review 1974’s “The Texas Chainsaw Massacre” VERSUS the 2003 Remake. WARNING: There will be SPOILERS.
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Quick Synopsis
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Released: October 17, 2003
Director: Marcus Nispel
Screenplay By: Scott Kosar
Stars: Jessica Biel, Jonathan Tucker, Erica Leerhsen, Mike Vogel, Eric Balfour, R. Lee Ermey
Narrated By: John Larroquette
Plot: After picking up a traumatized young hitchhiker, five friends find themselves stalked and hunted by a deformed chainsaw-wielding loon and his family of equally psychopathic killers.
How did this movie do
Budget: $9.5 million Box office: $107 million -
Trivia
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- After learning about the remake, Andrew Bryniarski (Leatherface) went up to producer Michael Bay at a Christmas party and personally asked him for the role.
- Dolph Lundgren was first considered to play Leatherface, but he turned them down so he could spend more time with his family.
- Kirsten Dunst, Katie Holmes and Jessica Alba were considered to play Erin.
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Body Count
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- Hitchhiker – Shoots herself in the mouth.
- Kemper – Head bludgeoned with sledgehammer by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt.
- Pepper – Sawed in the back with chainsaw by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt.
- Andy – Leg sawed off with chainsaw by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt, impaled with meat hook, and later stabbed in the stomach by Erin with a knife as a mercy kill.
- Morgan – Hung on chandelier and sawed in half with a chainsaw by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt.
- “Sheriff Hoyt” – Ran over repeatedly with his own police car by Erin.
- Detective Wallace – Killed by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt possibly with chainsaw.
- Detective Adams – Killed by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt, possibly with chainsaw.
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Ed Gein
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Ed Gein was the inspiration for this and many other movie, book and story characters.
Quick Bio:
Edward Theodore Gein (August 27, 1906 – July 26, 1984), also known as the Butcher of Plainfield or the Plainfield Ghoul, was an American convicted murderer and body snatcher. Gein’s crimes, committed around his hometown of Plainfield, Wisconsin, gathered widespread notoriety in 1957 after authorities discovered he had exhumed corpses from local graveyards and fashioned trophies and keepsakes from their bones and skin. Gein also confessed to killing two women: tavern owner Mary Hogan in 1954 and hardware store owner Bernice Worden in 1957.
Gein was initially found unfit to stand trial and confined to a mental health facility. By 1968, he was judged competent to stand trial; he was found guilty of the murder of Worden, but he was found legally insane and was remanded to a psychiatric institution. He died at Mendota Mental Health Institute of respiratory failure, on July 26, 1984, aged 77. He is buried next to his family in the Plainfield Cemetery, in a now-unmarked grave.
Inspiration for:
Psycho (1960), Deranged (1974), In the Light of the Moon (2000), Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (2007), “Ed Gein, the Musical” (2010), Rob Zombie films House of 1000 Corpses and its sequel, The Devil’s Rejects. Gein served as the inspiration for myriad fictional serial killers, most notably Norman Bates (Psycho), Leatherface (The Texas Chain Saw Massacre), Buffalo Bill (The Silence of the Lambs).
Searching the house, authorities found:
- Whole human bones and fragments
- A wastebasket made of human skin
- Human skin covering several chair seats
- Skulls on his bedposts
- Female skulls, some with the tops sawn off
- Bowls made from human skulls
- A corset made from a female torso skinned from shoulders to waist
- Leggings made from human leg skin
- Masks made from the skin of female heads
- Mary Hogan’s face mask in a paper bag
- Mary Hogan’s skull in a box
- Bernice Worden’s entire head in a burlap sack
- Bernice Worden’s heart “in a plastic bag in front of Gein’s potbelly stove”
- Nine vulvae in a shoe box
- A young girl’s dress and “the vulvas of two females judged to have been about fifteen years old”
- A belt made from female human nipples
- Four noses
- A pair of lips on a window shade drawstring
- A lampshade made from the skin of a human face
- Fingernails from female fingers
Deaths in immediate family
- On April 1, 1940, Ed Gein’s father George died of heart failure caused by his alcoholism, at age 66.
- On May 16, 1944, Henry and Ed were burning away marsh vegetation on the property; the fire got out of control, drawing the attention of the local fire department. By the end of the day—the fire having been extinguished and the firefighters gone—Ed reported his brother missing. With lanterns and flashlights, a search party searched for Henry, whose dead body was found lying face down. Apparently, he had been dead for some time, and it appeared that the cause of death was heart failure since he had not been burned or injured otherwise.It was later reported, by biographer Harold Schechter, that Henry had bruises on his head.The police dismissed the possibility of foul play and the county coroner later officially listed asphyxiation as the cause of death.
- Augusta, Gein’s mother, had a paralyzing stroke shortly after Henry’s death, and Gein devoted himself to taking care of her. She had a second stroke soon after, and her health deteriorated rapidly. She died on December 29, 1945, at the age of 67. Ed was devastated by her death; in the words of author Harold Schechter, he had “lost his only friend and one true love. And he was absolutely alone in the world.”
Gein’s Death and Grave
Gein died at the Mendota Mental Health Institute due to respiratory failure secondary to lung cancer on July 26, 1984, at the age of 77. Over the years, souvenir seekers chipped pieces from his gravestone at the Plainfield Cemetery, until the stone itself was stolen in 2000. It was recovered in June 2001, near Seattle, Washington, and was placed in storage at the Waushara County Sheriff’s Department. The gravesite itself is now unmarked, but not unknown; Gein is interred between his parents and brother in the cemetery.
Released: October 17, 2003
Director: Marcus Nispel
Screenplay By: Scott Kosar
Stars: Jessica Biel, Jonathan Tucker, Erica Leerhsen, Mike Vogel, Eric Balfour, R. Lee Ermey
Narrated By: John Larroquette
Plot: After picking up a traumatized young hitchhiker, five friends find themselves stalked and hunted by a deformed chainsaw-wielding loon and his family of equally psychopathic killers.
How did this movie do
Budget: $9.5 million Box office: $107 million
- After learning about the remake, Andrew Bryniarski (Leatherface) went up to producer Michael Bay at a Christmas party and personally asked him for the role.
- Dolph Lundgren was first considered to play Leatherface, but he turned them down so he could spend more time with his family.
- Kirsten Dunst, Katie Holmes and Jessica Alba were considered to play Erin.
- Hitchhiker – Shoots herself in the mouth.
- Kemper – Head bludgeoned with sledgehammer by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt.
- Pepper – Sawed in the back with chainsaw by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt.
- Andy – Leg sawed off with chainsaw by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt, impaled with meat hook, and later stabbed in the stomach by Erin with a knife as a mercy kill.
- Morgan – Hung on chandelier and sawed in half with a chainsaw by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt.
- “Sheriff Hoyt” – Ran over repeatedly with his own police car by Erin.
- Detective Wallace – Killed by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt possibly with chainsaw.
- Detective Adams – Killed by Thomas “Leatherface” Hewitt, possibly with chainsaw.
Ed Gein was the inspiration for this and many other movie, book and story characters.
Quick Bio:
Edward Theodore Gein (August 27, 1906 – July 26, 1984), also known as the Butcher of Plainfield or the Plainfield Ghoul, was an American convicted murderer and body snatcher. Gein’s crimes, committed around his hometown of Plainfield, Wisconsin, gathered widespread notoriety in 1957 after authorities discovered he had exhumed corpses from local graveyards and fashioned trophies and keepsakes from their bones and skin. Gein also confessed to killing two women: tavern owner Mary Hogan in 1954 and hardware store owner Bernice Worden in 1957.
Gein was initially found unfit to stand trial and confined to a mental health facility. By 1968, he was judged competent to stand trial; he was found guilty of the murder of Worden, but he was found legally insane and was remanded to a psychiatric institution. He died at Mendota Mental Health Institute of respiratory failure, on July 26, 1984, aged 77. He is buried next to his family in the Plainfield Cemetery, in a now-unmarked grave.
Inspiration for:
Psycho (1960), Deranged (1974), In the Light of the Moon (2000), Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield (2007), “Ed Gein, the Musical” (2010), Rob Zombie films House of 1000 Corpses and its sequel, The Devil’s Rejects. Gein served as the inspiration for myriad fictional serial killers, most notably Norman Bates (Psycho), Leatherface (The Texas Chain Saw Massacre), Buffalo Bill (The Silence of the Lambs).
Searching the house, authorities found:
- Whole human bones and fragments
- A wastebasket made of human skin
- Human skin covering several chair seats
- Skulls on his bedposts
- Female skulls, some with the tops sawn off
- Bowls made from human skulls
- A corset made from a female torso skinned from shoulders to waist
- Leggings made from human leg skin
- Masks made from the skin of female heads
- Mary Hogan’s face mask in a paper bag
- Mary Hogan’s skull in a box
- Bernice Worden’s entire head in a burlap sack
- Bernice Worden’s heart “in a plastic bag in front of Gein’s potbelly stove”
- Nine vulvae in a shoe box
- A young girl’s dress and “the vulvas of two females judged to have been about fifteen years old”
- A belt made from female human nipples
- Four noses
- A pair of lips on a window shade drawstring
- A lampshade made from the skin of a human face
- Fingernails from female fingers
Deaths in immediate family
- On April 1, 1940, Ed Gein’s father George died of heart failure caused by his alcoholism, at age 66.
- On May 16, 1944, Henry and Ed were burning away marsh vegetation on the property; the fire got out of control, drawing the attention of the local fire department. By the end of the day—the fire having been extinguished and the firefighters gone—Ed reported his brother missing. With lanterns and flashlights, a search party searched for Henry, whose dead body was found lying face down. Apparently, he had been dead for some time, and it appeared that the cause of death was heart failure since he had not been burned or injured otherwise.It was later reported, by biographer Harold Schechter, that Henry had bruises on his head.The police dismissed the possibility of foul play and the county coroner later officially listed asphyxiation as the cause of death.
- Augusta, Gein’s mother, had a paralyzing stroke shortly after Henry’s death, and Gein devoted himself to taking care of her. She had a second stroke soon after, and her health deteriorated rapidly. She died on December 29, 1945, at the age of 67. Ed was devastated by her death; in the words of author Harold Schechter, he had “lost his only friend and one true love. And he was absolutely alone in the world.”
Gein’s Death and Grave
Gein died at the Mendota Mental Health Institute due to respiratory failure secondary to lung cancer on July 26, 1984, at the age of 77. Over the years, souvenir seekers chipped pieces from his gravestone at the Plainfield Cemetery, until the stone itself was stolen in 2000. It was recovered in June 2001, near Seattle, Washington, and was placed in storage at the Waushara County Sheriff’s Department. The gravesite itself is now unmarked, but not unknown; Gein is interred between his parents and brother in the cemetery.
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Countries: United StatesLanguages: EnglishBudget: $9,500,000 (estimated)
Quotes From The Movie
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Sheriff Hoyt: I smell bullshit.
Sheriff Hoyt: Excuse me, you mind getting the fuck outta my way, son?
Morgan: Oh, my God, I am *way* too stoned for this!
Sheriff Hoyt: I bet she's real unhappy, real sorry that you're getting fuckin' her blood all over your goddamn arm. You know, back when I was a young patrolman, I used to love wrapping up these young honies.
Andy: Yeah, I bet you did.
Sheriff Hoyt: Yeah, cop me a little bit of a feel every now and then, you know. Oh, look at that. She's kind of wet down there. What you boys been doing with this dead body anyway?
Andy: Can we please finish this?
Andy: Erin, I'm dead. Please finish it. You can do it.
Erin: I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.
Andy: Here's a knife. Erin, do it. Do it!
Erin: I can't do it.
Andy: Do it! Do it! Do it!
Erin: Please forgive me... Please forgive me.
Andy: Well, I guess that's what brains look like... Sort of like... lasagna... kind of... Okay, I'll shut up now.
[last lines]
Narrator: The crime scene was not properly secured by Travis County Police. Two investigating officers were fatally wounded that day. This is the only known image of Thomas Hewitt, the man they call Leatherface. The case today still remains open.
Morgan: I'm sorry, but how often do girls blow their heads off in this shithole town?
Erin: I didn't go to Mexico to watch you get shit-faced for four days.
Kemper: That's what you do in Mexico!
Sheriff Hoyt: Is that where she was sitting? Because the angle don't add up for me with the blood on that back window.
Morgan: Maybe she was a bit more in the middle.
Sheriff Hoyt: Well, maybe you ought to move a little more over to the middle.
Morgan: But...
Sheriff Hoyt: What, are you afraid of a little blood? Get the fuck over there!
Luda May: Oh, I know your kind. Always cruelty and ridicule for my boy! Well does anyone care about me and my boy?
[first lines]
Narrator: The film which you are about to see is an account of the tragedy which befell a group of 5 youths. It is all the more tragic in that they were young. But had they lived very, very long lives, they could not have expected, nor would they have wished to see as much of the mad and macabre as they were to see that day. For them, an idyllic summer afternoon became a nightmare. For 30 years, the files collected dust in the cold-cases divison of the Travis County Police Department. Over 1,300 pieces of evidence were collected from the crime scene at the Hewitt residence. Yet none of the evidence was more compelling than the classified police footage of the crime-scene walk-through.
Adams (officer in walkthrough): Test test test... OK, uh, this is, uh, August 20th, 1973. The time is, uh, 3:47 P.M. Our location is the Hewitt residence on Route 17; it's where victim one was found. We're gonna do a walk-through, and we're now descending the stairs into the furnace room... uh... There's - over here - there's scratch marks along the wall. There's some more over here, right over here. And, oh, there's something over here. Seems... Looks like a clot of hair and an embedded fingernail. All right, we're gonna go move into the actual furnace room.
Narrator: The events of that day were to lead to one of the most bizarre crimes in the annals of American history - the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
[after Morgan tries shooting the sheriff with no avail]
Sheriff Hoyt: Well, well, well. Look at we have here. We got ourselves a killer. Only this time, you killed the sheriff.
Morgan: Will somebody tell her to please stop singing?
Morgan: What are we gonna do?
Kemper: I don't know... uh... we gotta call the cops, I guess.
Morgan: Um, yeah, on a list of bad ideas, that one goes, way up there. Oh, police officers, please, as you inspect a crime scene, which is now our van, please, ignore the colorful pinata, filled with marijuana, in case you happen to come across it, because it played no part, you know, whatsoever in the demise of this unfortunate, young, woman.
Erin: What's wrong with you fucking people?
Sheriff Hoyt: Nothing wrong with us.
Kemper: [after he sees a possum in a closet] Give me something to hold!
Sheriff Hoyt: You know, I have just as much respect for dead as anybody.
[sees Andy and Morgan putting the dead hitchhiker in the backseat of his patrol car]
Sheriff Hoyt: Get that nasty, goddamn thing out of the backseat of my goddamn car. Put it in the trunk, what the hell's the matter with you?
[sees rotten big corpse in meat window]
Morgan: Anyone want some pig?
[points cane in Kemper's chest]
Old Monty: I said she could call him; you wait outside.
Kemper: Okay, chief.
Old Monty: I ain't lookin' for trouble!
Kemper: Don't shoot!
Morgan: I was like Erin don't drink the water down there...
Erin: I didn't!
Kemper: And she didn't drink the tequila, she didn't drink the weed, smoke the weed.
Pepper: I don't know about you guys, but I happen to like my teeth right where they are.
Kemper: Morgan, how are you an expert on the dumbest shit?
Old Monty: What the hell are you doing in my house?
Andy: All right, look. We're just looking for are friend, all right. Then we'll be out of here.
Old Monty: You ain't running things, boy except your mouth.
Andy: This guy's crazy.
Old Monty: You little turd, you're so dead, you don't even know it.
Sheriff Hoyt: You kids shouldn't have messed with that little girl. You brought this all on yourself.
Andy: Yo, Kemp, can you do something about the A.C. back here? I'm melting.
Kemper: No. But if you or Pepper get too hot, you could always take your clothes off.
Andy: You'd like that, wouldn't you?
Erin: You are such a perv. Don't listen to him, Pepper.
Pepper: Why not? I think he's funny.
Erin: She's only known you for 19 hours. I've lived with him for 3 years, and trust me, he is not funny.
Sheriff Hoyt: How about giving me a hand here, asshole? You don't expect me to do this by myself? I need some help.
Andy: Why do I always get yanked into this shit? What am I doing?
Sheriff Hoyt: Lift her up and just kind of pull her over your way there. She ain't gonna bite you. She's deader than a goddamn doornail. Get a-hold of her and pick her up.
Pepper: It just seems so wrong.
Sheriff Hoyt: Don't give me any crap, young lady. Goddamn it, I got just as much respect for a dead body as anybody around here.
Jedidiah: Gramma! Let me in now!
Luda May: You best stay out there with them dogs 'til you learn how to play by the rules!
Erin: [trying to hotwire a patrol car] Come on, you bitch, start!
Teenage Girl: [Leans over and sobs with Erin, Kemper, Morgan, Andy and Pepper all watching her in the van] He's a bad man... he's a REALLY bad man!
Henrietta: [Hangs up the phone] I've got to go. Bye.
[Looks at Erin]
Henrietta: Something the matter, child? You don't look so good.
Erin: I thought you said you didn't have a phone.
Erin: [Watches Henrietta cradle the baby after she discovered that it was related to the hitch-hiker] That's not your baby.
[pause]
Erin: YOU STOLE HER!
Henrietta: She's MINE.
[Erin starts feeling an overwhelming emotion of everything that's been going on in combination of the drugged-up tea. She walks a little ways through the hallway, into the living room and then faints]